Crotch Rocket idiots

[a sensible driver]

To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled.
It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give
good motorcycle riders a bad name.

[jl]

Let me guess, you couldn't get their license plate numbers because they have
the plates mounted under the seats, right? I saw one crotch rocket last
week with the plated mounted this way and the body of the bike was literly
held together with rabbit wire and nylon strapping.

To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's in
Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled. It's
speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give good
motorcycle riders a bad name.

[Frank McDonald]

So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish even
dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor annoyance shows
remarkable immaturity.

To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's in
Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled. It's
speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give good
motorcycle riders a bad name.

[a sensible driver]

Well I was just hoping they had a donor card (wouldn't want them to be a
total waste of humanity) and WHEN (not if, they way this idiots were
driving) they do crash they don't kill someone else. Some people cannot
understand that bike vs. car/truck will result in the car/truck winning
99% of the time.

Post by Frank McDonald
So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish even
dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor annoyance
shows remarkable immaturity.

Post by a sensible driver
To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full
filled. It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that
give good motorcycle riders a bad name.

[DaveHX]

where...where i his post did he say he wished any harm whatsoever on
them? let alone death? you're baked

Post by Frank McDonald
So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish even
dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor annoyance
shows remarkable immaturity.

[Snipe]

Post by DaveHX
where...where i his post did he say he wished any harm whatsoever on
them? let alone death? you're baked

Well Dave he did say "may your donor cards be full filled". In order to
fulfill one's donor card wishes, they would have to be dead.

So, Frank is not baked after all. In fact I'd have to agree with him.
Although, I know that we all say things at times in anger that we don't
really mean, which I'm sure is the case with the OP.

snipe

Post by DaveHX

Post by Frank McDonald
So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish
even dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor
annoyance shows remarkable immaturity.

[Frank McDonald]

"may your donor cards be full filled" Sounds like he is wishing they would
die to me. He doesn't deny it.

where...where i his post did he say he wished any harm whatsoever on them?
let alone death? you're baked

Post by Frank McDonald
So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish even
dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor annoyance shows
remarkable immaturity.

[a sensible driver]

Well i did say:

"Well I was just hoping they had a donor card (wouldn't want them to be
a total waste of humanity) and WHEN (not if, they way this idiots were
driving) they do crash they don't kill someone else. Some people cannot
understand that bike vs. car/truck will result in the car/truck winning
99% of the time."

The way they were driving it was ridiculous. It was like they just
watched a Sons of Anarchy marathon and then made a bet on who can be the
biggest asshole. To be honest it wasn't only crotch rockets, it was a
bunch of deafening cruisers and even one guy driving a 3 wheeled bike (2
wheels in front). Like i said I just hope they have donor cards. You
can only pull so much bullshit on residential road before your ran over
by a 4x4 pickup because you screwed up your cocky stunt and drove in
front of him/her.

Post by Frank McDonald
"may your donor cards be full filled" Sounds like he is wishing they
would die to me. He doesn't deny it.

Post by DaveHX
where...where i his post did he say he wished any harm whatsoever on
them? let alone death? you're baked

Post by Frank McDonald
So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish
even dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor
annoyance shows remarkable immaturity.

[DaveHX]

i read that as he expects them to die. not wishing it on them

Post by Frank McDonald
"may your donor cards be full filled" Sounds like he is wishing they
would die to me. He doesn't deny it.

Post by DaveHX
where...where i his post did he say he wished any harm whatsoever on
them? let alone death? you're baked

Post by Frank McDonald
So because they are acting recklessly you want them to die.
I don't condone their action but we have all done something foolish
even dangerous in our time. Wanting someone to die for a minor
annoyance shows remarkable immaturity.

[Mundy Pond]

To the best of my knowledge they were friends of Donnie Sheppard who was
killed in a car accident on Sunday. He lived on Gushue Avenue (where I
live) and they all drove past his house to honour him. I suspect they
gathered at West Side Charlie's first; then drove to Gushue Avenue and past
his house and then to Barrett's funeral home on Commonwealth Avenue (that's
where I saw a lot of motorcycles when I drove past shorty after they drove
along Gushue Avenue. Yes, they were LOUD! Under the circumstances I have
no problems.

To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's in
Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled. It's
speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give good
motorcycle riders a bad name.

[DaveHX]

so they honor a friend killed in a traffic accident by acting like
morons, heightening the potential of getting in to/causing an accident
themselves??? right on.

Post by Mundy Pond
To the best of my knowledge they were friends of Donnie Sheppard who was
killed in a car accident on Sunday. He lived on Gushue Avenue (where I
live) and they all drove past his house to honour him. I suspect they
gathered at West Side Charlie's first; then drove to Gushue Avenue and past
his house and then to Barrett's funeral home on Commonwealth Avenue (that's
where I saw a lot of motorcycles when I drove past shorty after they drove
along Gushue Avenue. Yes, they were LOUD! Under the circumstances I have
no problems.

[Mundy Pond]

I'm not here to judge. Can't condone but can understand. Oxymoron I agree
but emotions are powerful shit. I'm sure they are normally responsible
people...or at least I hope. If they are not then I'm in your camp.

so they honor a friend killed in a traffic accident by acting like morons,
heightening the potential of getting in to/causing an accident
themselves??? right on.

Post by Mundy Pond
To the best of my knowledge they were friends of Donnie Sheppard who was
killed in a car accident on Sunday. He lived on Gushue Avenue (where I
live) and they all drove past his house to honour him. I suspect they
gathered at West Side Charlie's first; then drove to Gushue Avenue and
past his house and then to Barrett's funeral home on Commonwealth Avenue
(that's where I saw a lot of motorcycles when I drove past shorty after
they drove along Gushue Avenue. Yes, they were LOUD! Under the
circumstances I have no problems.

[Thomas Clancy]

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:33:06 -0230, a sensible driver <"a sensible

Post by a sensible driver
To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled.
It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give
good motorcycle riders a bad name.

Funny you should say that. I ride a "crotch rocket" and rarely see
that behavior (I have seen wheelies on two occasions). What I see on
practically every ride are loud muscle (cruiser) bikes that weave in
and out of traffic (no signal lights/head checks etc) and blow by me
with no regard for those around them.

Regards,
Thomas

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[nhudson]

I have to agree Thomas, I see cruisers behaving just as badly or worse. It's
the driver, not the bike.

Post by Thomas Clancy
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:33:06 -0230, a sensible driver <"a sensible

Post by a sensible driver
To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled.
It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give
good motorcycle riders a bad name.

Funny you should say that. I ride a "crotch rocket" and rarely see
that behavior (I have seen wheelies on two occasions). What I see on
practically every ride are loud muscle (cruiser) bikes that weave in
and out of traffic (no signal lights/head checks etc) and blow by me
with no regard for those around them.
Regards,
Thomas
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[Fender]

17 years old is way to young to be in command of a high hp machine,Even
a 600cc bike can hit speeds of 275kph in the blink of an eye! These
bikes are capable of very high speeds, very quickly, 1st gear is capable
of 100kph and then you have 5 more gears to go through.

Think of the fastest automobile you can think, a 600cc sport bike will
make it look silly off a traffic light, Remember this is just a 600cc
bike most of the kids I see around ride 1000cc bikes!! Add that to the
immature teens riding them and you have a recipe for disaster.

Remember when you were young not much mattered and you were invincible..

Until Newfoundland and Labrador gets a graduated license system, you
will see this every season, the accidents will continue and the death
tool will rise.
Education and Training along with a proper license system would make a
difference then the these kids wont be able to buy such a high powered
machine at such a young age.

Post by a sensible driver
To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled.
It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give good
motorcycle riders a bad name.

[jim]

Post by Fender
17 years old is way to young to be in command of a high hp machine,Even
a 600cc bike can hit speeds of 275kph in the blink of an eye! These
bikes are capable of very high speeds, very quickly, 1st gear is capable
of 100kph and then you have 5 more gears to go through.
Think of the fastest automobile you can think, a 600cc sport bike will
make it look silly off a traffic light, Remember this is just a 600cc
bike most of the kids I see around ride 1000cc bikes!!  Add that to the
immature teens riding them and you have a recipe for disaster.
Remember when you were young not much mattered and you were invincible..
Until Newfoundland and Labrador gets a graduated license system, you
will see this every season, the accidents will continue and the death
tool will rise.
Education and Training along with a proper license system would make a
difference then the these kids wont be able to buy such a high powered
machine at such a young age.

Post by a sensible driver
To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl  (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled.
 It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give good
motorcycle riders a bad name.- Hide quoted text -

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I've never owned a bike but I suspect a crash at 120kms or 220kms
would have the same result if impacting on a stationary object, or a
moving vehicle.

[a sensible driver]

I wouldn't mind but all the guys I saw looked to in their 30's and 40's.
Not some young snot nosed punk with a deathwish.

Post by jim

Post by Fender
17 years old is way to young to be in command of a high hp machine,Even
a 600cc bike can hit speeds of 275kph in the blink of an eye! These
bikes are capable of very high speeds, very quickly, 1st gear is capable
of 100kph and then you have 5 more gears to go through.
Think of the fastest automobile you can think, a 600cc sport bike will
make it look silly off a traffic light, Remember this is just a 600cc
bike most of the kids I see around ride 1000cc bikes!! Add that to the
immature teens riding them and you have a recipe for disaster.
Remember when you were young not much mattered and you were invincible..
Until Newfoundland and Labrador gets a graduated license system, you
will see this every season, the accidents will continue and the death
tool will rise.
Education and Training along with a proper license system would make a
difference then the these kids wont be able to buy such a high powered
machine at such a young age.

Post by a sensible driver
To the 15 or so idiots and assholes that just left west side Charlie's
in Mt. Pearl (Out Placentia Road) may your donor cards be full filled.
It's speeding, cat walking, tire smoking pricks like you that give good
motorcycle riders a bad name.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've never owned a bike but I suspect a crash at 120kms or 220kms
would have the same result if impacting on a stationary object, or a
moving vehicle.

[Fender]

How could you tell?? They weren't wearing helmets? You Noticed them in
the parking lot first? How can you tell what age they were we they not
riding?

Post by a sensible driver
I wouldn't mind but all the guys I saw looked to in their 30's and 40's.
Not some young snot nosed punk with a deathwish.

[Todd]

That 3 wheeled bike is a Can-Am Spyder and a fair chunk of change.

How could you tell?? They weren't wearing helmets? You Noticed them in the
parking lot first? How can you tell what age they were we they not riding?

Post by a sensible driver
I wouldn't mind but all the guys I saw looked to in their 30's and 40's.
Not some young snot nosed punk with a deathwish.

[jl]

Post by Todd
That 3 wheeled bike is a Can-Am Spyder and a fair chunk of change.

They are between 25 and 30 thousand dependent on whether the bike is
automatic or standard.

[Fender]

Your point is?

Post by Todd
That 3 wheeled bike is a Can-Am Spyder and a fair chunk of change.

[Bob Ster]

I believe he was making a statement of fact, not an opinion.
If you can't tell the difference, perhaps you should stick to
playing the guitar.

Post by Fender
Your point is?

Post by Todd
That 3 wheeled bike is a Can-Am Spyder and a fair chunk of change.

[Todd]

Exactly...just pointing it out. But you have to ask...what teenager
can afford such a bike?

When bikers are in a group...or even car owners...it's mob rules. Just
go to A&W on Thursday nights. Way out of hand.

Post by Bob Ster
I believe he was making a statement of fact, not an opinion.
If you can't tell the difference, perhaps you should stick to
playing the guitar.

Post by Fender
Your point is?

Post by Todd
That 3 wheeled bike is a Can-Am Spyder and a fair chunk of change.

[Fender]

Well Boob, there are a few 3 wheeled bikes with 2 wheels in the front.
If Todd was not there how does he know what it was. Unless Todd is the
OP?? Why don't you just run along now. I can hear your friends calling!
Tell them to pull up there pants and put that ball cap on the right way,
Run along now pet.

Post by Bob Ster
I believe he was making a statement of fact, not an opinion.
If you can't tell the difference, perhaps you should stick to
playing the guitar.

[Todd]

I wasn't there but I know my bikes and the only 3-wheel bike(two
fronts) I've seen in town this summer so far is the Can-Am Spyder.

Well Boob, there are a few 3 wheeled bikes with 2 wheels in the front. If
Todd was not there how does he know what it was. Unless Todd is the OP?? Why
don't you just run along now. I can hear your friends calling! Tell them to
pull up there pants and put that ball cap on the right way, Run along now
pet.

Post by Bob Ster
I believe he was making a statement of fact, not an opinion.
If you can't tell the difference, perhaps you should stick to
playing the guitar.

[Fender]

Do you ride?

I wasn't there but I know my bikes and the only 3-wheel bike(two fronts)
I've seen in town this summer so far is the Can-Am Spyder.

[Todd]

Did years ago...had a few bikes. Lately I've been getting the itch
again. I'd like to get my hands on a Honda CBX.

Post by Fender
Do you ride?

I wasn't there but I know my bikes and the only 3-wheel bike(two fronts)
I've seen in town this summer so far is the Can-Am Spyder.

[Bob Ster]

hehe...right away, sir.

Post by Fender
Well Boob, there are a few 3 wheeled bikes with 2 wheels in the front.
If Todd was not there how does he know what it was. Unless Todd is the
OP?? Why don't you just run along now. I can hear your friends calling!
Tell them to pull up there pants and put that ball cap on the right way,
Run along now pet.

Post by Bob Ster
I believe he was making a statement of fact, not an opinion.
If you can't tell the difference, perhaps you should stick to
playing the guitar.

[jl]

Post by Fender
Well Boob, there are a few 3 wheeled bikes with 2 wheels in the front.

Just curious but other then the Can-Am Spyder and the Piaggio 3, what other
production bikes have two front wheels?

The only one I've see around the St. John's area is the Spyder and as
someone already mentioned these cost a nice chunk of change. Fun and Fast
sells their standard model for $20,000 whereas the automatic model starts at
$25,000. Both prices are before tax, freight, pdi, and licensing.

While these are nice "bikes" they do not strike me as something that would
appeal to the 20-something crowd.

[Fender]

Post by jl
While these are nice "bikes" they do not strike me as something that would
appeal to the 20-something crowd.
Maybe it was that persons Dads or Moms Bike?

How do you know they looked like they were between 30 and 40 yrs old?
Were they wearing helmets? Did you see them in the parking lot without
helmets?

[jl]

How do you know they looked like they were between 30 and 40 yrs old? Were
they wearing helmets? Did you see them in the parking lot without helmets?

What the hell are you talking about? I never said that I saw anyone or that
anyone looked between 30 and 40 years old. I simply made an observation
that I personally do not think the Can-Am Spyder appeals to the 20-something
crowd. It's the same as saying I personally don't think owning a crotch
rocket appeals to the 50-something crowd. Different generations tend to
choose different style bikes.

Why not read what you are replying to BEFORE you reply. :-)

[DrewNL]

I really don't want to get into anything here, I'd just like to state
that I'm 29 and I really like the Spyder. I've been obsessed with it
since I saw one a few weeks ago in Montreal.

Post by jl

How do you know they looked like they were between 30 and 40 yrs old? Were
they wearing helmets? Did you see them in the parking lot without helmets?

What the hell are you talking about? I never said that I saw anyone or that
anyone looked between 30 and 40 years old. I simply made an observation
that I personally do not think the Can-Am Spyder appeals to the 20-something
crowd. It's the same as saying I personally don't think owning a crotch
rocket appeals to the 50-something crowd. Different generations tend to
choose different style bikes.
Why not read what you are replying to BEFORE you reply. :-)

[Todd]

I wonder how it drives? As the body doesn't roll with the turns it
must feel weird. There was one tested on Top Gear that rolled with the
turns and looked like a blast. Not really a bike...but who cares when
it can tilt.

I really don't want to get into anything here, I'd just like to state that
I'm 29 and I really like the Spyder. I've been obsessed with it since I saw
one a few weeks ago in Montreal.

Post by jl

How do you know they looked like they were between 30 and 40 yrs old? Were
they wearing helmets? Did you see them in the parking lot without helmets?

What the hell are you talking about? I never said that I saw anyone or
that anyone looked between 30 and 40 years old. I simply made an
observation that I personally do not think the Can-Am Spyder appeals to the
20-something crowd. It's the same as saying I personally don't think
owning a crotch rocket appeals to the 50-something crowd. Different
generations tend to choose different style bikes.
Why not read what you are replying to BEFORE you reply. :-)

[jl]

I wonder how it drives? As the body doesn't roll with the turns it must
feel weird. There was one tested on Top Gear that rolled with the turns
and looked like a blast. Not really a bike...but who cares when it can
tilt.

Fun and Fast had a Regetta Day demo ride event and both the auto and
standard models were available. The Spyder reminds me of riding a ski-doo
in deep snow in that you have to throw your weight into the turns but you
don't have to turn very much. At higher speeds I found that it was a very
smooth ride but around town it was like riding a sauna. The amount of heat
that comes from the engine was unbelivable.

On the straight ways you can pick up seepd and cruise along but it wouldn't
be any good for cruising around turns.

What do you mean by "who cares when it can tilt"? If you mean you can tilt
the Spyder when turning you are incorrect. On a Spyder the rider always
remains in an up-right position. You can lean into the turns but the Spyder
itself does not tilt as you would with a bike.

Personally it was a fun ride but not something I'd want to own for that
price.

[Todd]

I was referring to the bike/car in the vid I posted...it tilted up to
45º. I knew the Spyder didn't tilt.

As for a Ski-Doo...that's the first thing I thought of when I saw it.
It looks like all they did was replace the track and skies with wheels.
Shroud looks just like a Ski-Doo

I wonder how it drives? As the body doesn't roll with the turns it must
feel weird. There was one tested on Top Gear that rolled with the turns
and looked like a blast. Not really a bike...but who cares when it can
tilt.

Fun and Fast had a Regetta Day demo ride event and both the auto and standard
models were available. The Spyder reminds me of riding a ski-doo in deep
snow in that you have to throw your weight into the turns but you don't have
to turn very much. At higher speeds I found that it was a very smooth ride
but around town it was like riding a sauna. The amount of heat that comes
from the engine was unbelivable.
On the straight ways you can pick up seepd and cruise along but it wouldn't
be any good for cruising around turns.
What do you mean by "who cares when it can tilt"? If you mean you can tilt
the Spyder when turning you are incorrect. On a Spyder the rider always
remains in an up-right position. You can lean into the turns but the Spyder
itself does not tilt as you would with a bike.
Personally it was a fun ride but not something I'd want to own for that
price.

[a sensible driver]

Post by Fender

Post by jl
While these are nice "bikes" they do not strike me as something that
would appeal to the 20-something crowd.
Maybe it was that persons Dads or Moms Bike?

How do you know they looked like they were between 30 and 40 yrs old?
Were they wearing helmets? Did you see them in the parking lot without
helmets?

Well considering I was pretty much surrounded by them at the red light I
noticed some of the ages. By surrounded I mean they blocked off both
right and left turning lanes at the red light when in fact all of them
were turning left. They tried to pass me on the right while driving up
to the intersection by dominion and would have if there was another inch
or so (I was driving around a person turning left to go into dominion).
Just because a person has a helmet on doesn't mean they have a visor
or full front helmet.

[Craig Strickland]

Post by a sensible driver

Post by Fender

Post by jl
While these are nice "bikes" they do not strike me as something that
would appeal to the 20-something crowd.
Maybe it was that persons Dads or Moms Bike?

How do you know they looked like they were between 30 and 40 yrs old?
Were they wearing helmets? Did you see them in the parking lot without
helmets?

Well considering I was pretty much surrounded by them at the red light I
noticed some of the ages. By surrounded I mean they blocked off both
right and left turning lanes at the red light when in fact all of them
were turning left. They tried to pass me on the right while driving up
to the intersection by dominion and would have if there was another inch
or so (I was driving around a person turning left to go into dominion).
Just because a person has a helmet on doesn't mean they have a visor
or full front helmet.

Rip cousin Donny..